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Beitrag TRC: Joint RC Policy Formulation Taskforce Formed

Joint TRC Policy Formulation Taskforce Formed

A five-member joint Trekking Registration Certificate (TRC) policy formulation taskforce has been formed under Mr. K. N. Dhakal, Under-Secretary at the Tourism Industry Administration Division at the Ministry of Culture, Tourism and Civil Aviation (MoCTCA), as coordinator.
Other members of the taskforce include Mr. Deepak Mahat, Immediate Past President of Trekking Agents Association of Nepal (TAAN) and Mr. Mohan Lamsal, TAAN’s Treasurer, and one representative each from Nepal Tourism Board (NTB) and the Department of Immigration.
The taskforce will work on policy matters and mechanism concerning TRC implementation and submit its report to the government soon. “We are working on issues to be included in the rules and regulations in order to make TRC implementation more effective,” said Mr. Mahat. The report will include provisions for the government to supervise and monitor the implementation of TRC and take action against those violating the rules.
TAAN is making preparations for the implementation of TRC. TAAN is planning to start distributing TRC from the World Tourism Day (September 27) TRC and the new provision will come into effect from October 1, 2006.




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Do you know, are there any indications that individual trekking without porters ans without guides will be banned in future?

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Dear Andreas
Namaste.
As far I know every tourist should take at least one guide/Porter from Trekking agency to obtain TRC in Nepal.Without hiring any Guide or porter it is no allow to obtain TRC from TAAN.
I received recently circular Letter from TAAN just now and I am posting it with this message.Hopely it will help to know more about TRC system in Nepal.


Nepal Government assigns TAAN to implement

Trekking Registration Certificate (TRC)





Registration Required for trekkers
With a view to checking illegal operations in the trekking industry and ensuring safety and security of trekkers, the Nepal Government has introduced a new rule that requires all trekkers to go on trekking in various parts of the country only through registered trekking agencies after obtaining a Trekking Registration Certificate (TRC) from Trekking Agents Association of Nepal (TAAN). As an umbrella organization of more than 550 registered trekking companies of Nepal, TAAN has been authorized by the Nepal Government to issue TRC and the new rule is scheduled to come into force from October 1, 2006. TAAN will charge a minimum amount of money as administrative and service fee for issuing TRC. As a record of trekkers, TRC incorporates their personal details, trekking routes, duration, etc. The provision is introduced in order to upgrade the service standard and for better management of sustainable mountain tourism development in Nepal. Trekking without TRC is illegal and subject to charge fines and other punishments in accordance with the laws of the Nepal Government.

Importance and Necessity of TRC
It is very important to have a kind of monitoring and facilitating system in place for any sort of outdoor activity that involves physical risk. Trekking is a major outdoor activity in Nepal's mountain tourism. Given the rugged physical condition and remoteness of almost all trekking areas of Nepal's Himalayan mountain region, a record system is very essential that would be helpful in monitoring the safety and security of trekkers. The past experiences have shown that difficulties have been faced while carrying out rescue operations promptly during the times of natural calamities. Because of lack of proper record system of trekkers, their exact whereabouts and the information about trekking routes, rescue and search missions used to face difficulties in spotting the trekkers missing.

The Nepal Government is very serious about implementing TRC as a mechanism to control all sorts of anomaly, including illegal operations, and to ensure safety and security of trekkers. Therefore, TAAN, as a national tourism organization working in the field of sustainable mountain tourism in Nepal, has been entrusted with the responsibility of implementing TRC. As per TAAN’s proposed hassle-free procedure, TRC is being issued to each and every trekker traveling only through the registered trekking agencies.


The decision regarding the introduction of TRC is a welcome step taken in its policies and programmes by the Nepal Government. So, TAAN is in the process of developing a well-managed and efficient system with nominal service charge of Nepali rupees 250 (equivalent US$ 3.5 only) to implement TRC in the open trekking areas of Nepal. TRC is going to be issued from convenient locations of Kathmandu and Pokhara.

TRC Issuing System
The following considerations have been taken into account in the process of issuing TRC:

1. All important details of trekkers and trekking routes will be maintained on a computerized record system that may be useful for safety and security of trekkers and field-staff.

2. The data generated from the system will be useful to all stakeholders -- tourism organizations, government agencies, diplomatic missions, tour operators, research institutes, etc.

3. Unauthorized trekking operations will be controlled, thus, resulting into better management of trekking service and in benefit of all concerned - trekkers, agencies, field - staff, government, etc. and also occasional untoward incidents will be better prevented.

4. TAAN will be able to work more in its effort of preservation of natural and cultural environment in cooperation with local communities. This, in turn, will enable to promote sustainable tourism.

5. The issue of TRC will be so simplified that it would be prompt and inexpensive. The convenient TRC counter in Kathmandu will remain open 12 hours a day all the seven days a week round the year. Pokhara counter will be opened for 9 hours a day. The TRC counters will be located close to the counters of the National Parks and Conservation Areas.

6. TAAN’s Media Centre will have updated information about the conditions of trails and other relevant insights into the trekking areas. The same information also will be updated frequently in the TAAN's web page. Some of the check posts along the trekking routes will be equipped with telephone services by TAAN.

TRC Regulatory Provisions
1. Trekkers must keep Trekking Registration Certificate (TRC) along with them while trekking.
2. TRC must be shown to TAAN authorities, National Park check posts, Conservation Area Project’s check posts and police check posts on demand.
3. Deviation from the prescribed trekking areas shall be taken as a violation of law of the Government of Nepal
4. Trekkers must keep their copies of passports along with them during trekking for verification.
5. TRC shall be non-transferable, non-refundable and non-endorsable and valid only for single entry.

Appeal
TAAN also requests all concerned stakeholders to help disseminate the above information to potential trekkers to Nepal and other related offices and agencies. Any inconvenience that may arise due to implementation of this new rule is regretted.




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Hi,

“…..As far I know every tourist should take at least one guide/Porter from Trekking agency to obtain TRC in Nepal. Without hiring any Guide or porter it is no allow to obtain TRC from TAAN….”


May I ask, how this rule will be implemented in the practice? If I plan a fly in Everest Base Camp trek for example, can I obtain the TRC in Lukla and hire a porter in Namche Bazaar, or do I have to obtain the TRC in Kathmandu and must bring the guide along all the way from Kathmandu at my expense?

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Hello Mares
Namaste.
Thanks for your interesting question.If you want to do Mt. Everest Base camp trek (or khumbu region trek) and you want to fly kathmandu to Lukla in this case you can not obtian TRC in Lukla.There will be control Post in kathmandu domestic airport to check your TRC along with your flight ticket So TRC will issue only from Kathmandu and pokhra .There will not have any Post to issue TRC in Lukla.So you have to take your guide/Porter along with you to Lukla.If you have guide with you (one Neplai staff either guide or porter) and need more porters then it is possible to hire in Lukla.


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Hi Saipal, thanks again for your reply. I have some more questions to you.
What would the required ratio of guide per trekking tourist be?
One to one, meaning one guide per tourist, or one guide per group?
If there is only one guide required per group, how big can the group be?
Would it be ok, to hire one guide for a group of four tourists for example?

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Zitat von Mares
Hi Saipal, thanks again for your reply. I have some more questions to you.
[. . .]
Best regards,

Mares
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Raj, please answer YES or NO to the question about independent trekkers not having to employ anyone, if they so wish
Source YetiZone - "Implimentation of TRC"

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Are you able to answer our questions?
Seems like the users of Trekkingforum are generally more polite than some on the YZ-board. A quick glance over YetiZone proves how there as well, many foreigners experience this whole thing with the implementation of TRC and how things will change, as one big mess. It's basically the same with questions on TT.

But polite or not polite: I wonder if it's really smart to thank trekkingagents for their posts on (western) travelboards re. the TRC. Because the confusion is enormous, also in Nepal apparently. So what do théy know for sure?
Did anyone read government announcements in respect of these new rules? Or just TAAN announcements?

Against an X-number of postings that are (or seem to be) made by Nepali travelagents or guides, there is an Y-number of postings made (or so it seems) by Nepalis who point out that this whole TRC-operation is not government-announced and therefore not official. Will the government come with an official announcement still, between now and October 1st? That would be a bit late...., several foreign trekkers have already started announcing they'll skip Nepal this autumn because "they don't know what it's going to be like with this TRC, and no Nepali official wants to tell them and give them clear info and guarantees".

And why is it that up to this day the Nepal Tourism Board says NOTHING about TRC and permits in its section with "news", where the old, clear newsladder by the way has disappeared? We know that earlier on the NTB publicly denied that independent trekking would become impossible. And frankly their opinion looked the opposite of what TAAN announced. The NTB is a government body.

So what is it with you, Nepal? A power fight? The days of "military madness" - thank God - seem to be a little over, but now you're sliding into the days of "business madness" with an incomprehensible money grab that will turn off many a trekker from coming or returning to Nepal? Is this indeed going to be a kick in the *ss of the poorest of the poor, financially and socio-economically?

I'll try to look up any official Nepali government statements on this issue lately; seems like the most practical thing to do now. And maybe a few Embassies can provide some reliable information on this TRC-problem meanwhile? It seems to me that the last people you should trust with information in this matter, are the ones who'll benefit (the most) from it. Is that TAAN and its members? To me it seems that way.
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Standard trekking in Nepal is going to be a whole new "adventure"...

So it is said that there was a "government announcement" indeed: Trekinfo.com, and more discussion over there.
But I don't manage to recover that Himalayan Times publication. And the search-function on media such as Kantipur Online, Nepal News, The Nepali Times and even The Rising Nepal cannot produce any article on TAAN and a "TRC" at present. And a search on the website of the Nepal Government is not helpful either with zero results. That is odd, considering it's September meanwhile.

However, on the separate website for the Ministry of Culture, Tourism and Civil Aviation the latest recorded press-release
is dated June 6, 2006: so no TRC there, and no TAAN <---> TRC. All this while the page for Travel & Trekking Rules & Regulations is presently :

" Under Construction, Sorry for Inconvenience ! "

Maybe a few of the Nepal-based regulars here can post some links? Nót to TAAN-announcements but to proper (official) government announcements? In English, or in Nepali. Or what is the latest from the Nepal Tourism Board on this issue?

And Andreas, where will you ever send this petition to, if - in Nepal itself - so many official bodies (and media as well) don't seem to take notice at all of this rising problem for future Nepal trekkers? Will TAAN care if nobody else out there seems to care?
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The petition results will handed over directly to the TAAN!

As it has been written in this german speaking thread (http://www.trekkingforum.com/forum/s...ad.php?p=38117) there has not been made any decisions till now, if individual trekking will be still allowed or not. Our petition therefore will be able to bring the decision into the right direction!
There's a good chance that TAAN officials will decide it in our interests.

It will take only a few days till they will get aware of our petition, I'm sure!

It's good to know that the other forums are also discussing this issue. I hope they will come over to sign it!

The petition is integrated in Trekkingforum.com. For all of those who want to link it external, there's another URL: http://trekkingpetition.nepal.st/phppetition/index.php

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Zitat:
Joint TRC Policy Formulation Taskforce Formed
Habt ihr das hier schon mal gelesen? Eine YZ-Antwort von Rich:
Zitat:
A work around?
The answer is simple. I don't know why i didn't think of it before. As of 26 July 2006, The Nepal government has opened up tourism enterprises to foriegn ownership.
And dan gibt er diesen Link: TAAN website, news archive
Zitat:
Nepal opens travel, trekking, rafting businesses to foreign investors
2006-07-28

The Nepal Government has opened the travel, trekking and rafting sectors to foreign investment. The government has introduced this provision by amending the Travel and Trekking Regulations and promulgating Rafting Regulations.
These sectors were limited only to domestic investors. But foreign investors were allowed to invest in hotels, lodges, casinos and restaurants.
More foreign companies are likely to make investments in these sectors in Nepal. This could help Nepal’s entire tourism industry, as the bigger foreign companies will market the country in an effective manner.
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Hello Mares
Namaste.
One guide will be enough for group of tourists if they all go to same trek & same rute.It is not necessary to have guide per trekking tourists.The group would not be biger than 08-10 pax.It will be ok to hire a guide for four trekking tourists.

I have read lots of posting in this forum about individual trekkers. This is quite emerge subject to all of us.I have talked severeal time with President of TAAN and Government officer (Nepal Government) and I came to know that it is absulutely ban for individual trekkers after implementation of TRC from 01 october 2006.This is one of main goal of TRC.otherwise Peoples go to trekking office and pay few extra dollars to obtain TRC and they can start trekking by theeir own and the goal of TRC will not full fill.It is not main goal of TAAN to collect revenue (NRS 250) only from every Trekking Tourists by implementation TRC but its main goal to create job oppertunity to the peoples of Nepal and to generate income among all the TAAN members by providing at least Guide/Porter to every trekking tourist.So Without hiring Guide/Porter individual tourist can not obtain TRC to trek in Nepal.It means it will be ban to trek alone in Nepal from 01 october 2006.




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@ saipal: This is bad news for individual trekkers.
But there are still a lot of things to ask about:
  1. What is trekking?
  2. So what, if I just make a day hike from Pokhara to Dhampus and back. So I need a TRC cum guide?
  3. How's about hiking in non-trekking-areas? Let's say from Trisuli Bazar to Gorkha? Or up to Panch Pokhari, where no faciliates or checkpoints are?
  4. In case two trekkers hire a guide officially but customers get sick on the trek; who will carry their backpacks as it is not allowed to hire porters on the way?
  5. Agencies will gain more money, but lots and lots of village inhabitants will loose a big income which they've got by offering day by day porter service?
  6. A lot of lodges will have to close, as agencies prefer just the best business conditions.
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Hello Adreas
Namaste.
Yes, it is not good news for individual trekkers but hopely it will help some how while
they are in trekking.I am not against the individual trekkers.
Thanks for questions, I am not a TRC expertis but as a Nepali and members of this forum I will try to reply you what I heard & know about TRC with this Post.


1.What is trekking?
Normally, we defined ,trekking is long walking in remote area towards your destionation.It means you should walk, there will be certain time factor ,remote area and your prescribed route & destination.

2.So what, if I just make a day hike from Pokhara to Dhampus and back. So I need
a TRC cum guide?
Normally, you do not need ACAP Permit to visit Pokhara to Dhampus so you do not
need TRC cum Guide to Dhampus but if you want to towards trek then it is essentital.

3. How's about hiking in non-trekking-areas? Let's say from Trisuli Bazar to Gorkha? Or up to Panch Pokhari, where no faciliates or checkpoints are?
From 01 October,TRC will implement in Major trekking area/route.Concerning to non trekking area TAAN & Ministry of Tourism trying to make new Provison in near future.

4. In case two trekkers hire a guide officially but customers get sick on the trek; who will carry their backpacks as it is not allowed to hire porters on the way?
It is not TRC mean that you can not hire porter on the way to the Trek.TRC deals, Every Trekking Toursit need at least one Guide/Porter to obtain TRC.Rest you can hire on the way.
In this case, Guide can hire Local Porter towards our clients destination.

5.Agencies will gain more money, but lots and lots of village inhabitants will loose a big income which they've got by offering day by day porter service?

It is not true,while Providing porters to the Trekking Tourist the agency will gain lots and it will loose a big income of villagers.To have good gain all the agency should Provide diffrent tour/trek package regularly to the custumers.To provide Porter will not sufficent for a agency.Agency should pay annual Tax to government.So when TRC implement every agency should pay govt-tax according to TRC issued.It means it will help to collect revenu of nation.When trekking tourist will go trek with Porter there will have some business transction between Porter & local villagers (e.g Fooding/Lodging etc) so when more porters stay at villege Local peoples will gain somehow rather than Lossing their big business.
Normally,it will not have big financial trouble for trekking tourists while hiring a porter .
I forgot to mentioned in my previous post is that the role of TRC is to increase job oppertunity to the Peoples of Nepal by providing Guide/Porters.It will help to increase employment oppertunity to the peoples of nepal.

6.A lot of lodges will have to close, as agencies prefer just the best business conditions.
TRC will help to promote Terkking of Nepal very effictivley.It will make safe & systematic trekking system in Nepal.It will help to increase number of trekkers in future So new & New Lodge will be established in the mountains & more Peoples will have work oppertunity.We TRC will help to generate Job oppertunity to the Peoples of Nepal in the future rather than Loosing their work.


I am sorry if I have committed any mistake.Please note that I am not against of individual trekkers.

Namaste from Kathmandu.
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Hi Saipal, thanks again for all your information and comments.

One last question: Do you know how the rules for trekking tourists are, that already have started the trek before 1st of October, and are in the trekking area by than? Let’s say from 20th of September until the end of October on an EBC / Gokyo trek?

To me, it feels rather awkward to come up with such a drastic change of rule by the government only a few weeks away from the main trekking season, and still not have any really official postings on the government websites.

Like me, many perhaps are thinking of rerouting to other trekking places, I guess.

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Dear Saipal,

Thanks a lot for your long answer! Especially point 4 gives me hope! But it has been said, that one have to carry this paper, where all persons have to be mentionned before. How can this work out, if one can still hire porters on the way?

To trust your guide is one of the main things you consider when setting of for trekking! If you get a get from an agency, you don't know who he will be. Engaging a guide or porterguide on your own through recommendations or personal aquaintance is very important.

Please let me underline one more thing: If all individual trekkers will have to engage a guide from an agency, there will not be enough guides available at all! So I'm sure some will get bad educated guides. My guide has told me, that it is very expensive to join the guideschool, so the new regulations will not automatically lead to more work.

According to your point nr 3, individual trekking in non-tourist-areas will be still allowded? Just to make sure!

BTW it's good to read that you are not against individual trekking at all!

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